28.03.2000 - 00:00 |
Iran fed Hizbullah
Iran fed Hizbullah
He used to be a guard in Diyarbakir casinos. Then he met Hizbullah. He
became the first confessor of the organisation. He gave Huseyin Vileoglu's
ıstanbul address to the police and participated in the operation on police'
side. He identified Velioglu.
Hizbullah's confessor, Cemil, who has been released a short while ago, met
first Milliyet Daily.
"I used to be a drunk"
Cemil: I used to be a fast gambler and a drunk in Diyarbakir until 1985. I
was popular. I used to drink too much. My family opposed me, and advised me
to adopt a religious life. At the same period of time, the PKK murdered a
few members of the family.
Without an ideological motivation, we showed a reaction to the PKK. I
started to talk against the PKK everywhere. I gave a struggle against anyone
that I knew to be a PKK member. Then Huseyin Velioglu heard of me and
learned that we were against the PKK as a family and I turned face to
"I met Velioglu in 1986"
Bingol. Suzan told me that the way I live should have bored me and I have to
change my living. I met Velioglu in 1986, and contacted the organisation.
Question: How were the militants won?"
Cemil: They used to organise in both bookshops and mosques and Islamic or
religious people were convinced through the militants they knew. If
conditions were available they would even sent me to a foreign country to
win a relative abroad.
First a test is applied then the person is worked on. The first degree
target is the Islamic and religiously conservative part. These can be the
supporters of other political parties, even the children, apart from those
subjected to PKK's savagery.
"The refugees in Iran started it"
organisation and financing of Hizbullah?
Cemil: Iran backed many Akinci (Raiders) and National Turkish Students Union
members who took refugee in this coutry after 12 Sept. 1980 coupe. There
used to be a ministtry that conducted propaganda activities to win more
revolutionists. The ministry and Iranian Intelligence Service contacted
these people. People invited to Iran every year for training. The first
cadre of Hizbullah was made up among those who went to Iran.
Rafsancani and Hamaney
Cemil: I went Tehran in 1986. I attended Islamic Unity meetings there.
Hizbullah's strategy in countries with Muslim people was what talked in the
meetings. Highest ranking authorities attented to those meetings organised
by the Iranian Intelligence. Rafsancani, Hamaney and Fadlallah, for example.
How the illegal struggle was to be given was told in the meetings. They told
us ıslamic struggle can not be without weapons. Agenst from the Iranian
Intelligence met us one to one and then investigated our contacts.
Velioglu brought money from Iran
Cemil: These bookstores opened as soon as Velioglu returned from Iran, by
Velioglu himself. He hadn't had a car untli then. He returned with money,
and this was how he opened the bookstores.
"They also gavet the weapons"
Cemil: No. Iran also sent weapons until 1993. During the disagreement
between the Ilim and Menzil supporters Iran wanted to act as the mediator.
They quit sending weapons as an agreement failed. Then a special unit formed
in the military wing for weapon supply.
Question: What were the financial sources of the organisation then?
Cemil: Apart from the money donated and taken by force, the lands of rich
people were seized and money was earned as well as the militants were
employed to work the soil. Militants seperated 10 percent of the soil they
cultivated or the donation they received.
We didn't take support from the state
Cemil: The State had not been aware of Hizbullah for a while. They had
concentrated on the PKK. We hadn't used the name Hizbullah as well. We had
named ourselves as the "Community". People gave us the name. I deny any
institution of the State supported us.
"Origins are the same with the Welfare"
Cemil: First of all many Welfare Party deputies and Hizbullah members have
the same origins. Akincilar, National Turkish Students Union all had
struggled shoulder to shoulder for years.
We killed to thousands of people
Cemil: The official number in a thousand and 76, but this makes nearly 2
thousands when those kidnapped are included. Some were killed without a